[17] Sie waren für einander geboren[,] und lebten beide noch, hätten sie sich vereint." She also published her findings again in a recent book in German (Aoki 2008). (. It was not addressed to anyone specific (there was no address, city, or name written on the letter) nor was it dated with a year. More love letters (also by Josephine to Beethoven) were published by Schmidt-Görg (1969), "Der Umstand, daß man … als Folge dieser Begegnung eine natürliche Tochter in Kauf zu nehmen hatte, erschien der professionellen Welt als so abenteuerlich, daß die Widerstände gegen die Josephinen-Hypothese sich merklich versteiften." And he seemed as passionately in love with his IMMORTAL BELOVED as he was with his infinitely immortal classical notes that will forever remain immortal in me. Beethoven was briefly infatuated with her in 1801-2 (when she was his piano pupil, and dedicated his renowned "Moonlight" Sonata [in C-sharp minor, Op. If you have not read Beethoven's famous love letter, you're in for a real treat. Sie waren für einander geboren. 162. Scholars have since this time been divided on the intended recipient of the Immortal Beloved letter. ", In a review of Tellenbach (1983) in the leading German newspaper F.A.Z. Letters by Beethoven to Josephine translations made directly from German: 15 Love Letters by and 7 Letters by Josephine to Beethoven. See also Tellenbach (1988) for the effect of guardianship laws. ), Rolland was in contact with Marianne Czeke, who seemed to have known quite a lot more about the relationship between Beethoven and the Brunsviks. Zu Maynard Solomons Beethoven- und Schubert-Deutungen." You'll get to see a side of Beethoven that many people have never seen before; a glimpse into the romantic nature of Beethoven himself. "… es war mir leid, lieber V. den letzten Abend in Prag nicht mit ihnen zubringen zu können, und ich fand es selbst für unanständig, allein ein Umstand den ich nicht vorhersehen könnte, hielt mich davon ab." Beethoven's women: class differences, the immortal beloved and a possible love child Countess Josephine Brunsvik. That Josephine could have been the unknown woman was subsequently suggested by analyses of similarities in wordings and phrases between earlier letters (from 1804 to 1809) and this mysterious one from 1812, mainly in the monographs by Massin (1955, 1970), Goldschmidt (1980) and Tellenbach (1983, p. 103 f.):[15], In his biography of Beethoven, Schindler (1840) named Julie ("Giulietta") Guicciardi as the "Immortal Beloved". Famous German poet Johann Wolfgang von Goethe was also in love more than once in his life. Sebald was definitely not in Prague at the beginning of July 1812, and Cooper (2000, p. 416) consequently ruled her out as a candidate. 120 to her, and in one of his letters found after his death, he famously wrote: “Though still in bed, my thoughts go out to you, my Immortal Beloved, Be calm–love me–today–yesterday–what tearful longings for you–you–you–my life–my all–farewell. – Die Hand des Schicksals ruht düster auf mir – Ich sah nebst meinem tiefen Kummer auch noch die Entartung meiner Kinder und – fast – aller Muth wich von mir –!!! ... All of the puzzling aspects about Beethoven's affair with the 'Immortal Beloved', including his various cryptic comments, can be explained in terms of his one known beloved – Josephine. These were the Heiligenstadt Testament and the love letters shown above. Canadian composer James K. Wright has written a song cycle for baritone (or mezzo-soprano) and piano trio titled Briefe an die unsterbliche Geliebte/Letters to the Immortal Beloved (2012). Newman, Ernest (1911): "A Beethoven Hoax?". The coach broke down, of course, owing to the dreadful road which had not been made up and was nothing but a country track. 296. Thayer thought the letter must have been written around 1806-07. ich will die Kinder nie von mir lassen. (on 24 February 1984), Dahlhaus stated: "Daß Beethovens berühmter 'Brief an die unsterbliche Geliebte' ... an Josephine von Brunswick gerichtet war, steht inzwischen fest." It is almost certain the young Beethoven fell in love with Eleonore as a teenager in Bonn, and quite likely that he pressed his suit (unsuccessfully). Howell, Standley (1979): "Beethoven's Mälzel Canon. Beethoven’s Love Letters On This Page The Immortal Beloved Letters The Early Candidates for the Immortal Beloved The Later Candidates Recent Theories Letters to Unknown Women Once upon a time in old Vienna, the great composer Ludwig von Beethoven passed away quietly at his home. The letter may never have been sent. In the early hours of February 15, 2013 Ella woke and was raced to hospital where, despite efforts to … It is unclear whether or not the letter was ever sent, or if it was sent, if it was returned. There was also a forged Beethoven letter by Paul Bekker in Die Musik,[22] But it was already shown to be a hoax by Newman (1911) –- a last-ditch effort to salvage the discredited Guicciardi hypothesis. London: Faber & Faber 2014. ... Dilettante verses ... by a clumsy author, a real dilettante, a coffeehouse poet. ... St. will daß ich mir selbst sitzen soll. … The love affair was under way by late 1811. "[41] [58], Lund (1988) made a claim that Antonie's son Karl, born exactly eight months after the alleged encounter with Beethoven, should have been his son; even Solomon did not endorse this, as he thought "it was 'sensationalistic'." (p. xvii). No doubt we shall meet soon; and today also time fails me to tell you of the thoughts which during these last few days I have been revolving about my life--If our hearts were always closely united, I would certainly entertain no such thoughts. It was written to an unknown woman who Beethoven simply called his *Immortal Beloved. ", Beahrs, Virginia Oakley (1988): "The Immortal Beloved Riddle Reconsidered.". There is still room for a reasonable doubt." Take note of how these artists and authors expressed their undying love for their significant others. Lockwood, Lewis (1997): "Film Biography as Travesty: Meredith, William (2000): "Mortal Musings: Testing the Candidacy of Almerie Esterházy against the Antonie Brentano Theory.". What he needed was a wife, that's for sure. All we know is that it was written on the 6th and 7th of July. A Biography]. This letter to an unnamed "Immortal Beloved" was found in the personal papers of Ludwig van Beethoven after his death in 1827. Beethoven and Antonie, since her return to Vienna, were "on friendly terms", In the summer of 1812 he lived in the same hotel in Franzensbad as the Brentanos, and. University of Nebraska Press. May 21, 2016 - Beethoven's famous love letter Immortal Beloved Ever thine - ever mine - ever ours Intimate friends of Beethoven, true, one and all; but loves? [35], The French authors Jean and Brigitte Massin (1955) identified Josephine as the "Immortal Beloved", mainly based on comparisons of the "Letter to the Immortal Beloved" with the earlier 14 (15) love letters: "The letter to the 'Immortal Beloved' ... not only uses similar wording, but also emphasizes his long-time faithfulness to his one and only Beloved. Walden, Edward (2002): "Beethoven's 'Immortal Beloved': Arguments in Support of the Candidacy of Bettina Brentano". ", Tellenbach, Marie-Elisabeth (1998): "Psychoanalyse und historisch-philologische Methode. Der einsame Revolutionär. One desire I can't seem to quench. ", Beck, Dagmar & Herre, Grita (1979): "Anton Schindlers fingierte Eintragungen in den Konversationsheften." (, "... les nombreuses lettres qu'il écrira à Antonina marquent une amitié profonde mais presque cérémonieuse à force d'être réservée, et Beethoven semble toujours considérer Franz, Antonia et leurs enfants comme un ensemble undivisible." "[34], Riezler (1962, p. 46), still very much a "standard" German biography of Beethoven, followed Kaznelson regarding Josephine being his "only love", likewise Dahlhaus (1991, p. 247) who concluded that "internal evidence" points to Josephine. She was a happily married wife and mother ... her candidacy, which includes the improbable scenario of a 'ménage à trois' in Karlsbad, makes no psychological sense." autogr. In 14 love letters between 1804 and 1809, the … 23.). These can be summarized into two important items: "A new way of looking at old evidence confirms that Josephine was Beethoven's one and only 'Immortal Beloved'. Another Schindler Forgery?". Josephine's candidacy as the "Immortal Beloved" was contested by Solomon (1988), mainly in response to Massin (1955, 1970), Goldschmidt (1980) and Tellenbach (1983). Although all have been advanced as Beethoven's unknown Immortal Beloved, the assessment is unsupported by the record or by any known correspondence. She would have been happier with him than with Stackelberg. Beahrs, Virginia (1993): "Beethoven's Only Beloved? (Josephine Countess Brunsvik-Deym's Secret Revealed: New Results about her Relationship to Beethoven. ", Pulkert, Oldrich (2000): "Beethoven's Unsterbliche Geliebte." Goldschmidt's evaluation of the Josephine hypothesis: "Without conclusive proofs of the opposite one should no longer want to part prematurely with the increasingly justified assumption that the 'Immortal Beloved' could hardly be anyone else but the 'Only Beloved'."[43]. "3 Briefe von Beethoven ... sie werden wohl an Josephine sein, die er leidenschaftlich geliebt hat." Aaron M. Green is an expert on classical music and music history, with more than 10 years of both solo and ensemble performance experience. "[39] She could not contemplate marrying Beethoven, a commoner, for the simple reason that she would have lost the guardianship of her aristocratic children. A New Look at Beethoven's Diary Entry and the 'Immortal Beloved.". Meredith (2011), p. xv. Caeyers, Jan: Beethoven. Significant new discoveries in European archives were made and published by Steblin (2002, 2007, 2009, 2009a) and Skwara/Steblin (2007). The Beethoven Immortal Beloved letter was found after Beethoven's death at the same time as "Heiligenstadt's Testament" is made up of two double pages, written on both sides, (8 pages), of about 200 x 238 mm and on a single sheet of about 201 x 119 mm both sides. 166.). There was no address on the letter, and no envelope was found (thus suggesting it was probably never sent). ), Solomon's hypothesis was contested by Goldschmidt (1980), Tellenbach (1983, 1987, 1988, 1993/1994, 1998), Beahrs (1972, 1986, 1988, 1993), Dahlhaus (1991), Pichler (1994), Altman (1996), Meredith (2000), Steblin (2007), Walden (2011), Caeyers (2012), and Swaffort (2014). Good morning, on July 7thEven when I am in bed my thoughts rush to you, my eternally beloved, now and then joyfully, then again sadly, waiting to know whether Fate will hear our prayer--To face life I must live altogether with you or never see you. (Walden 2011, p. 104), … die Antonia-Hypothese … nicht so restlos überzeugend ist, daß sie jede andere ausschließt. It had already been refuted by Goldschmidt (1980) with regard to Steichen (1959). And regarding Karlsbad: "It is possible that the letter arose from a ... meeting with a woman who informed Beethoven that she was going to Karlsbad and then failed to carry out her declared intention." ], Tellenbach, Marie-Elisabeth (1999): "Die Bedeutung des Adler-Gleichnisses in Beethovens Brief an Therese Gräfin Brunswick. ", Schindler (1840). A Contribution to his Biography.]. Beethoven dedicated his Diabelli Variations Op. He wrote a series of passionate letters — a total of 10 pages written in pencil — to a woman, his “Immortal Beloved.” These heartbreaking letters were found after Beethoven’s death. [21] A summary of the older literature can be found in Forbes (1967, pp. Schmidt-Görg (1957) published 13 heretofore unknown love letters by Beethoven to Josephine Brunsvik (and a draft letter by him that survived as a copy by Josephine), that could be dated to the period from 1804 to 1809/10 when she was a widow after the early death of her first husband Count Deym. [Die Redaktion der "Musik" legte dieses Beethoven-Manuskript vielen bekannten Fachleuten vor, welche alle unabhängig voneinander das Stück für echt erklärten.] Is not our love truly founded in heaven--and, what is more, as strongly cemented as the firmament of Heaven?--. Beethoven’s love life is a mystery. Goldschmidt (1980), p. 235. [32] Goldschmidt (1980) explains why the German Beethoven scholarship was so reluctant to accept Kaznelson's theory (already published before these "13 letters"): "The fact that, as a result of this meeting, they had to take a natural daughter into account, appeared so venturesome to the professional world that the resistance to the Josephine hypothesis stiffened noticeably. [The Meaning of the Eagle Allegory in Beethoven's Letter to Therese Countess Brunsvik. Walden's book is also summarized and reviewed by Patricia Stroh in the, "Ich habe heute einen schweren Tag. The letter was found amongst the composers things after his death. "Beethoven! Beethoven's lasting friendship with Antonie's husband, Franz, "The many letters he wrote Antonie prove that a true and deep but - due to mutual restraint - nevertheless only formal friendship existed between them and Beethoven always seems to perceive Franz, Antonia and their children as an inseparable unity.". This, together with interviews of some of the Brunsvik descendants, led her to the conclusion that Therese must have been the "Immortal Beloved."[18]. 1809/1810. 240.). Two of three letters by Beethoven to Bettina (and published by her) are generally considered forgeries (like similar letters by Goethe she published), although Walden devotes an entire Chapter setting out evidence in support of the letter's authenticity. Miss Kissi-Debra described reading Beethoven’s love letters to Ella after they had their final meal together on Valentine’s Day evening before her fatal asthma attack. [46] His hypothesis was founded on two major assumptions (or prerequisites): ad 1: Antonie arrived in Prague on 3 July 1812 after an arduous journey with husband, child and servant (and was registered there); she left at dawn the following morning: "Where did she have time that night for a tryst with Beethoven?" At first most researchers, including Alexander Wheelock Thayer,[19] also thought Therese was the "Immortal Beloved". (Goldschmidt 1980, p. Once again and more detailed Solomon (1972, 1998) suggested Antonie Brentano to have been the "Immortal Beloved". the Archduke Rudolph,Cardinal-Archbishop of Olmütz. (Meredith 2011, p. x), Beahrs (1993, p. 183 f.) supported Josephine: "Was there for him in fact … one deep and lasting passion for a certain dear one, marriage to whom was precluded, not by psychological inhibitions of the inner man, but by prohibitive heart-breaking externals? They were therefore not independent objective requirements at all." Ley (1957, p. 78) saw it differently: "Only on the negative side has one been able to arrive at certain conclusions: neither Giulietta Guicciardi, nor Amalie Sebald, nor Bettina Brentano can be considered any longer, and not even Therese Brunsvik, who for a long time was seriously regarded as the recipient of the famous love letter. ", Pulkert's (2000) claim about one Almerie Esterházy, whom Beethoven did not even know, was refuted by Steblin (2001). Newman, William S (1984): "Yet Another Major Beethoven Forgery by Schindler? Thomas-San-Galli (1909, 1910) checked out the official listings of guests in Bohemia, and at first (in 1909) concluded that Amalie Sebald was the "Immortal Beloved". 21.) They were born for each other, and if both were still alive, they would be united. In: The Beethoven Newsletter 5/2, p. 29. Beethoven's love letter is very famous and often quoted in literary media as well as television, movies, and commercials. 1. These I haveinserted in chronological order, and marked withthe letter K., in order to distinguish them from thecorrespondence edited by Dr. Nohl. The gods must send us everything else, whatever must and shall be our fate--Your faithful Ludwig, Monday evening, July 6thYou are suffering, you, my most precious one--I have noticed the very moment that letters have to be handed in very early, on Monday--or on Thursday--the only days when the mail coach goes from here to K[arlsbad].--You are suffering--Oh, where I am, you are with me--I will see to it that you and I, that I can live with you. "[38], "Beethoven! 27, No. "[44] They then argue: … Die dilettantischen Verse haben ebenfalls Stammbuchcharakter. Her first name was in fact "Julie", as she was always called (Steblin 2009); in Beethoven's dedication of his, Thayer (rev. (Goldschmidt 1980). This was then also in response to the biography by Schindler (1840), refuting his hypothesis that Julie Guicciardi was the "immortal Beloved". ... From the standpoint of music theory, the connections make eminent sense. 16.) Swafford, Jan: Beethoven: Anguish and Triumph. The Immortal Beloved (German "Unsterbliche Geliebte") is the addressee[1] of a love letter which composer Ludwig van Beethoven wrote on 6–7 July 1812 in Teplitz. ", Tellenbach, Marie-Elisabeth (1988): "Künstler und Ständegesellschaft um 1800: die Rolle der Vormundschaftsgesetze in Beethovens Beziehung zu Josephine Gräfin Deym." Not enough: "Bekker made it then public that his Beethoven letter was a forgery. In his numerous letters, compositions and notes there are some - albeit unrequited - declarations of love. "[55] and: "In order to possibly verify the Antonia-Hypothesis with its inherent factual contradictions once and forever, it is necessary to falsify the other hypotheses that have been offered. Upon his death, a love letter was found among his possessions. (Josephine's Diary, 8 June 1812, in Steblin 2007, p. (Forbes 1967, p. 1090), reprinted in Goldschmidt (1980). "[60] Meredith (2011, p. xxii), in his Introduction, has reviewed the debate over the major candidates and he believes that "Walden's proposal merits unbiased consideration". Maternal affection made her forgo her own happiness. * The two candidates favored by most contemporary scholars are Antonie Brentano[5] and Josephine Brunsvik. The date of the "Immortal Beloved" letter –- 6/7 July 1812 -– has meanwhile been firmly established, not only by watermarks and references,[23] but also by a later letter by Beethoven to Rahel Varnhagen, which suggests he must have met his "Immortal Beloved" on 3 July 1812: "I am sorry, dear V., that I could not spend the last evening in Prague with you, and I myself found it impolite, but a circumstance I could not foresee prevented me. Whether the pieces can be read as veritable love letters from Beethoven to the countess, as was recently posited on the occasion of a new recording of the Adagio, remains to be seen. Following Beethoven’s death in March 1827, his assistant, Anton Schindler, discovered a hidden drawer, which contained some pictures, money and two documents. To learn more about Beethoven, including his nine symphonies and recommended recordings, stop by the One-Stop Beethoven Resource page. According to Varnhagen's diary, 15 February 1856: "Bettina ... claims Beethoven had been in love with her and wanted to marry her! Jan 30, 2014 - These letters left me with an insatiable thirst for love. Meredith, William (2011): "Introduction", in Walden (2011), pp. Beahrs, Virginia (1990): "My Angel, My All, My Self": A Literal Translation of Beethoven's Letter to the Immortal Beloved. ), "L'hypothèse d'Antonia Brentano est à la fois séduisante et absurde." The passionate feelings manifested in these letters where addressed to a person unknown. There was four years later also a claim by a Japanese author (Aoki 1959, 1968) who had "discovered" Antonie. Josephinens Haus- und Herzensfreund! "I would have to violate sacred bonds if I gave in to your request – Believe me – that I, by doing what is my duty, suffer the most – and that surely noble motives were guiding my actions." Beethoven 127. [2][3] The apparently unsent letter was found in the composer's estate following his death, after which it remained in the hands of Anton Schindler until his death, was subsequently willed to his sister, and was sold by her in 1880 to the Berlin State Library, where it remains today. Le mieux est l'ennemi du bien – both together they would have been happy (perhaps). think of Beethoven’s music as having a certain universal appeal that transcends time, place and culture, his letters seem to express universal truths. 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